John Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Hansard source

Yes, it is about Kyoto too—and not Kyoto 2, the new Kyoto; Kyoto as well. This is what he had to say:

That is why it is just, as I say, a completely unrealistic debate to say that you could have a climate change agreement that doesn’t involve China and then America obviously, and of course India which is also a country of over a billion people growing at a vast rate. Now we’re not at the stage yet—

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