Kelly O'Dwyer (Higgins, Liberal Party, Minister for Small Business) Share this | Hansard source

The implications are very severe. I will quote from Nicole Leape and her partner, Richard Jenkins, both of whom are owner-drivers, who said about the payment order:

If it goes through, it will affect me and my family … We've got a huge chance we'd end up bankrupt. We're a family with four children, we don't need to be uprooting all of that. We just want fair rates.

And they are absolutely right. I do not expect those opposite to understand, and I do not expect the shadow minister for small business to understand, because, quite frankly, when they conduct small business forums, where do you think they conduct those forums?

They conduct those forums at the headquarters of the Transport Workers Union in Sydney.

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