Barnaby Joyce (New England, National Party, Shadow Minister for Veterans' Affairs) Share this | Hansard source

I'm just reflecting on what the member for Holt said, and I respect absolutely the position she has put forward. I reckon, because I can hear it from the narrative, that a lot of that came from the department or from the minister's office. You can just tell from the tenor of the speech. It's got the generic words and issues that are pertinent to those speeches. And there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with it is that it's coming from the esoteric views of departments and people removed from the realities of exactly how this issue works.

Not for one moment, not for one second, would I suggest that you should either smoke or vape or drink too much—I've given up all three, and I never realised how boring I am—but people do. That's just the truth. That is just the truth of the matter.

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