Order! We're going to deal with this. The minister's going to pause. The Leader of the Nationals is simply talking over the minister throughout the remainder of the answer. He's now warned. The Deputy Leader of the Opposition is also warned. If the minister is not giving the answer you'd like, I get that. But she's being directly relevant to the question, talking about the reasons and talking about the issues, so we're not going to have any more interjections. The minister has the call.