Luke Howarth (Petrie, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Treasurer) Share this | Hansard source

I rise to speak in consideration in detail. The coalition supports the actions of the government when it comes to preventing scams. We feel that it is very important legislation, so I have some questions for the minister regarding the Scams Prevention Framework Bill 2024. I know that this is an important bill for the minister, and I want to acknowledge the work that the minister and his staff have done. With his recent announcement about finishing up at the next election, I would—through you, Mr Speaker—just say to the minister: well done; we wish you well, and thank you for the work that you've done for Australians. We'll give you more time to speak on this, because we know that you love it and that you want lots of questions, so we've got a fair few questions to ask you.

There are some concerns that have been raised about whether the bill will achieve its objectives for consumers. It has been described by some as a bit rushed, complex and unclear, and stacked against consumers. Through you, Mr Speaker: Minister, this framework relies heavily on leaving matters to be determined in future delegated legislation, which has not been made available or consulted upon alongside this bill. These include sector designation instruments, mandatory sector codes and other operational rules and guidelines.

First, given that significant matters, including the prescriptive obligations in the codes, will be in this delegated legislation, why has it not been made publicly available alongside the bill? Second, have these instruments been developed or drafted already? Third, if not, why has this work, which is the substance and scope of the framework, not been done after 31 months of the Albanese government? Fourth, is this work being actively progressed by your department, and when will it be consulted on? I note that this policy work can be progressed and consulted on before the bill passes. Fifth, why are stakeholders and the parliament being expected to pass the bill through this enabling legislation when so much of the detail is not yet available?

They're the initial questions. I also have some questions on regulation. The regulation impact analysis for this bill, which was tabled as part of the explanatory memorandum, uses costing assumptions that appear to significantly understate the regulatory compliance costs. For example, it makes assumptions, including 1.1 full-time equivalent staff required for a major bank to uplift anti-scam activity and governments' improvements; a $40,000 initial technology investment required for a major bank to comply with the info-sharing and reporting obligations and $20,000 ongoing; a $40,000 initial investment in staff for a COBA member bank to administer anti-scam activity and governments' improvements and $10,000 ongoing; and a $100,000 initial investment for a major telco to uplift anti-scam activity in governments and $50,000 ongoing.

Minister, you have said this framework will not be the bare minimum. Can you explain how that statement is compatible with the costing assumptions? Do you stand by the findings of the regulation impact analysis conducted? And has this regulation impact analysis been signed off as compliant by the Office of Impact Analysis? Minister, if you agree that the costings require correction, will you ask the department to do further consultation to get it right and then table a replacement explanatory memorandum?

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