House debates

Wednesday, 12 November 2008

Questions without Notice

Economy

3:21 pm

Photo of Richard MarlesRichard Marles (Corio, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Finance and Deregulation. Why is it important to maintain confidence in Australia’s economic regulatory arrangements, and why have the actions of key regulators been called into question?

Photo of Lindsay TannerLindsay Tanner (Melbourne, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank the member for Corio for his question. Confidence is a central issue in the current economic circumstances facing Australia and indeed the rest of the world. That is confidence not just in wider business conditions but in particular in the strength and integrity of our regulators. It is also particularly important internationally, and that is reflected in decisions being made by international investors and financial institutions with respect to Australia. Those decisions are in turn reflected in things like the interest rates that they charge Australian financial institutions to borrow money from them—which in turn are reflected in things like interest rates that ordinary working people have to pay on their home loans, their credit cards and other financial products.

Confidence in the regulatory structure and confidence in the regulators is critical, particularly in the current circumstances where the government is facing very challenging circumstances as a result of the global financial crisis. Any suggestion that our regulators are not rigorous, are not impartial and that they allow politics to intrude into their decision making undermines confidence in the Australian regulatory arrangements both in this country and overseas. If you want to see examples of that, without naming them, all you need to do is have a look at one or two countries overseas where they have genuinely opaque, genuinely politicised regulatory arrangements and see what that does for confidence amongst international investors and international financial institutions.

Undermining confidence in our regulators seriously threatens the integrity of the Australian economy. The suggestion that the Australian Treasury has been involved in cooking the books, in publishing false forecasts and the suggestion that the Australian independent Reserve Bank has taken political decisions with respect to interest rates undermines world confidence and undermines Australian confidence in our economic regulators.

I am asked why these attacks are happening, why our regulators are being impugned and traduced, why the Secretary of the Treasury is being accused of lying, why he is being accused of cooking the books and why the Reserve Bank governor is being accused of manipulating interest rates for political purposes. The answer is straightforward: this is an orchestrated assault by the Liberal Party. It is according to a plan. It is according to a pattern. It is not a one-off event. It is according to an orchestrated plan on the part of the Liberal Party under the leadership of the Leader of the Opposition, because the Liberal Party now represents the shonks, the spivs and the sharks who have all crawled out from under rocks as a result of the global financial crisis.

Photo of Joe HockeyJoe Hockey (North Sydney, Liberal Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of order: not only is this the same answer he gave a little earlier in question time—obviously he did not get it up for the cameras, the grab—but now it is irrelevant to the question that was asked. We will have a war on relevance in this situation.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The question was in order and the minister is responding to the question.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of order: these comments are precisely the same comments that you asked the minister to withdraw before. You should ask him to withdraw them again because they are offensive and frankly it is a defiance of the chair that he has tried to repeat them in this way.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The comments that the minister was asked to withdraw directly reflected upon the Leader of the Opposition and that is why they were withdrawn. On this occasion it is unclear in the way in which the comments were put together whether the minister was referring specifically to members of this chamber.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Further to your comments and on the point of order, something does not become any less offensive because it has been recouched in that way. I certainly believe it is a very offensive reflection on me. I think most of my colleagues would regard themselves as being offensively reflected upon and these comments should be withdrawn.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Consistent with the way in which these things have been handled in the past, there have been a number of occasions when I have witnessed similar sorts of accusations being made to large collectives, to which I may have thought I belonged, that may have disturbed me. I think that is the case here. I am indicating to the member for Warringah that the earlier withdrawal was a completely different subject and topic because it was directly reflecting upon the Leader of the Opposition.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, if—

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

No, the member for Warringah does not have the call yet. The member for Warringah on the point of order.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I appreciate your further entertaining me on this, but if these words were rightly judged to be offensive when directed to the Leader of the Opposition, they are equally offensive when directed to all members of the opposition. I ask you, exercising your discretion and judgement regarding the standards of this House—

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

My difficulty is that, in defending myself, I would have to repeat the remarks that I asked the minister to withdraw. They were completely—to use a colloquial expression—a different kettle of fish to the way in which this has been put to the chamber.

Photo of Warren TrussWarren Truss (Wide Bay, National Party, Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker—

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

No, I am not entertaining any further points of order on this matter. I think that when people ask me to go and review circumstances, I am happy for people to go over the circumstances and they will come to perhaps other conclusions.

Photo of Wilson TuckeyWilson Tuckey (O'Connor, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I draw your attention to standing orders 88, 89 and 90 and, more particularly, the reference there in the major heading to ‘disorder’. The remarks of the Minister for Finance and Deregulation are an invitation to disorder and if he wants us to talk about Wayne Swan running around with bags of money in Queensland and the disgrace that was delivered to him, let him suspend standing orders and we will get into the shonks.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for O’Connor will withdraw.

Photo of Wilson TuckeyWilson Tuckey (O'Connor, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

I withdraw to let you get on with this shonky business.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for O’Connor will withdraw.

Photo of Wilson TuckeyWilson Tuckey (O'Connor, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Tuckey interjecting

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for O’Connor will withdraw.

Photo of Wilson TuckeyWilson Tuckey (O'Connor, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

I withdraw, but you can see why these things happen.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I name the member for O’Connor without warning, and this is for three days.

3:30 pm

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

I move:

That the member be suspended from the service of the House.

Question put.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

This being the member’s second suspension during this calendar year, he is suspended under standing order 94 for today and the next three consecutive sitting days.

The member for O’Connor then left the chamber.

Photo of Lindsay TannerLindsay Tanner (Melbourne, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | | Hansard source

It appears that the opposition are rather sensitive about their association with the shonks and the spivs and the sharks.

3:38 pm

Photo of Joe HockeyJoe Hockey (North Sydney, Liberal Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

I move:

That the member be no longer heard.

Question put.

Photo of Lindsay TannerLindsay Tanner (Melbourne, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | | Hansard source

As I was saying, many years ago an old colleague gave me some words of advice: when you throw a stone into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit. How true that was. There is a simple question here for the Leader of the Opposition that has to be addressed. That is: is he going to repudiate the unprincipled, vicious attacks on the Secretary of the Treasury and the Treasury and their integrity by the member for Goldstein? By his persistent refusal to intervene to repudiate these attacks he is embracing them. By his persistent refusal to provide substantiation and evidence of these claims he is showing his true colours. He has all the integrity, courage and ethics of Arthur Daley. That is what the Leader of the Opposition is demonstrating here. He bought his preselection; he wriggled out of responsibility for HIH. He has all the ethics of Arthur Daley.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I think the minister was plainly intending to be offensive and he ought to be asked to withdraw.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I ask the Minister for Finance and Deregulation to withdraw the remark.

Photo of Lindsay TannerLindsay Tanner (Melbourne, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | | Hansard source

I withdraw, Mr Speaker.

Photo of Kevin RuddKevin Rudd (Griffith, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.