House debates
Wednesday, 5 December 2018
Questions without Notice
Banking and Financial Services
2:53 pm
Clare O'Neil (Hotham, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Justice) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
My question is to the Assistant Treasurer. The Assistant Treasurer is responsible for financial services, including the big banks. Since he became Assistant Treasurer, how many victims of financial misconduct has he met with? Or does the Assistant Treasurer only share his ministerial assessments with LNP donors? And will he now cancel his attendance at the event advertised for 19 December?
Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The Prime Minister on a point of order—or the Leader of the House?
Christopher Pyne (Sturt, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Mr Speaker, it's the same point of order that I made yesterday. The minister is not responsible for the banks; that is the responsibility of the Treasurer—
Clare O'Neil (Hotham, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Justice) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
He's the minister for financial services.
Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The member for Hotham is warned. I've made very clear that I'm going to hear points of order without interruption. She's lucky she's still in the chamber to hear the answer, if there is one.
Christopher Pyne (Sturt, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
He's also not responsible for the royal commission; the Treasurer is responsible for that as well. So, in the same way that the question yesterday was out of order, I think the question today is out of order.
Mr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Opposition Business (House)) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The Assistant Treasurer is responsible for financial services, which certainly do affect the banks. The question as to whether he's been meeting the victims and who he meets with is, I would suggest, entirely in order for any minister to be asked—whether they've met with particular people. And the question goes to different categories of those people. It starts with victims of misconduct and then asks about LNP donors—whether he meets with those—and then asks about his diary and a future event that he's been advertised as attending.
Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Let's start at the end and work backwards. The Manager of Opposition Business won't be surprised to know that the last part of the question is completely out of order. Asking ministers things that aren't their responsibility, whether they're attending a fundraiser or going through their diary, is completely out of order. I made that point yesterday, and I'm not going to allow questions to wilfully keep restating it so that I then have to make exactly the same ruling. That is completely out of order.
When it comes to the part about whether he has met with bank victims from the royal commission, he's not responsible for the royal commission. The only part of the question that may well be in order is the part about his responsibilities as Assistant Treasurer with respect to financial services, but even in that case I make the point that as the Assistant Treasurer he's not the primary minister—that, in fact, is the Treasurer, who has overall responsibility. If someone wants to tell me I'm wrong on any of that, I'm happy to hear—
An honourable member interjecting—
One point I'm very certain of from all the time I have been in this place is that assistant treasurers are subordinate to treasurers—sorry, Assistant Treasurer, but they are. Yes, Manager of Opposition Business?
Mr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Opposition Business (House)) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
There's only one thing to clarify. The question was framed specifically about victims of financial misconduct, not with reference to the royal commission.
Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
There's so much of it that's out of order that I'm going to rule it out of order and allow you a chance to redraft it.