House debates

Tuesday, 20 June 2023

Questions without Notice

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

2:30 pm

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

EY (—) (): My question is to the Minister for Indigenous Australians. Would the Voice be able to make representatives to the Chief of the Defence Force on military acquisitions or the location or operation of military bases?

Opposition Members:

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister is laughing at me. Can I repeat the question?

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The member for Macnamara is warned. If he says one more thing during the question, I'm going to leave the chamber. The House will have absolute silence so I can hear from the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is for the Minister for Indigenous Australians

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The member for Hunter will leave the chamber under 94a.

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

Would the Voice be able to make representatives to the Chief of the Defence Force on military acquisitions or the location or operation of military bases?

2:31 pm

Photo of Linda BurneyLinda Burney (Barton, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Indigenous Australians) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank the member for Farrer for her question. I can only repeat what I have already said. The Voice will make recommendations that affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, but the Voice will not run programs, it will not deliver funding and it will not have the power of veto. The Attorney-General was very clear in his second reading speech about specific matters to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander

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The member for Fisher is warned.

Photo of Linda BurneyLinda Burney (Barton, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Indigenous Australians) Share this | | Hansard source

peoples, matters relevant to the Australian community. I repeat that—matters relevant to the Australian community, including general laws and measures that affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people. I am so pleased that the member for Farrer has such a thorough idea of what those things are! I can tell you what the Voice will not be giving advice on. It won't be giving advice on parking tickets. It won't be giving advice on changing Australia Day. It will not be giving advice on all of the ridiculous things that that side has come up with.

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Order! The minister will pause.

The member for Barker, I'm trying to hear the Deputy Leader of the Opposition on a point of order. She has the call.

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

On relevance: it's a yes or no question that goes to a very important question of public policy. If the Minister for Indigenous Australians cannot answer it, she could choose to hand the question—

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Resume your seat.

Photo of Mark DreyfusMark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

You don't like the answer! You're pathetic! You shouldn't let them put you up to it.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Attorney-General will cease interjecting, and I'll hear from the Leader of the House.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I would suggest that every part of that point of order was an abuse of the standing orders.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The minister will continue. I want to be clear. She's being relevant to the question. The question was about the Voice and what it is able to make representations on. She's giving context, and I just heard her say, 'What it won't do,' so I can't imagine how she could be more relevant to the question. I'm giving her the call, and she'll be heard in silence.

Photo of Linda BurneyLinda Burney (Barton, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Indigenous Australians) Share this | | Hansard source

I will say this to the parliament: they go lower; we go higher.