House debates

Thursday, 8 February 2024

Questions without Notice

Negative Gearing

2:27 pm

Photo of Angus TaylorAngus Taylor (Hume, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to the Prime Minister's and the Treasurer's repeated refusals to rule out changes to negative gearing. Will the Prime Minister give a commitment to the Australian people that Labor's changes will include grandfathering of pre-existing negative gearing arrangements?

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The Assistant Treasurer will cease interjecting.

Order! The member for O'Connor will cease interjecting.

Honourable members interjecting

Order! Members on my left and my right: I've been crystal clear during the week. The time for interjecting is not before I call a minister or prime minister. The Prime Minister has the call.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

We've entered the twilight zone officially now. What we have before us is real legislation about tax changes before the parliament. That's what we have before us. What we have now is the shadow Treasurer asking for details about things that are only happening in his head. They're only happening in his own conversations with himself.

Government Members:

Government members interjecting

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Members on my right, the member for Hume wishes to make a point of order.

Photo of Angus TaylorAngus Taylor (Hume, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

On relevance, Mr Speaker.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Prime Minister was asked a question about tax changes and negative gearing. I'm going to ask him to return to the question. He's had a preamble for only 45 seconds.

Photo of Angus TaylorAngus Taylor (Hume, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I was going to make my point on relevance.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Yes. I'm saying that the Prime Minister needs to—the member for Hume can have round 2. Go for it.

Photo of Angus TaylorAngus Taylor (Hume, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

The Prime Minister has lied to the Australian people over 100 times. Why would anyone believe him on this?

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Hume, I think, knows what will happen next. He may leave the chamber under 94(a).

The member for Hume then left the chamber.

I remind all members about parliamentary language. We have had one point of order. There'll be no more points of order during this answer. The Prime Minister has the call.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

He might have been on the early flight on a Thursday, but I don't think that was the motive. I think the motive is he is so embarrassed by his own position on taxation that he can't even bear to sit in the chamber. He's so embarrassed that as shadow Treasurer—we have a tax cut plan before this parliament that is worth $107 billion over the forward estimates, and the shadow Treasurer can't ask a question about it. He can't raise anything about it. He was asked—

Photo of Michael SukkarMichael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

On a point of order—

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

He's already made a ruling.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

You've already had one point on relevance. It had better be a real of point of order, or you'll go the same way. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. I'll hear from the member for Deakin.

Photo of Michael SukkarMichael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm entitled to come to the dispatch box.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

You are, and to take the point of order. You may proceed.

Photo of Michael SukkarMichael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

The Prime Minister is defying your order.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Resume your seat. I'm going to deal with this. I said it was in 42 seconds and the Prime Minister was entitled to a preamble. It was far too early to call a point on relevance, when the Prime Minister hasn't even got to his answer. I give the call to the Prime Minister.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

I reckon they probably saw the Leader of the Opposition on 7.30 last night. They're all trying to bail out. The shadow Treasurer asked me a question about tax, and he was asked a question about tax on the Sunrise program. It sums up exactly what their position is. So do you want more support for people in the lower end? The shadow Treasurer: 'No.' No, they don't. They oppose what we're doing. They won't ask any questions about what's before the parliament. All they're asking about is what's going on inside their own little heads and inside their own discussions, inside the twilight zone in which they exist.