House debates
Thursday, 12 September 2024
Committees
Privileges and Members' Interests Committee; Report
10:21 am
Rob Mitchell (McEwen, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
On behalf of the Standing Committee of Privileges and Members' Interests, I present a statement representing its report in response to the matter of privilege referred to it by the House in relation to a concern notice issued to the member for Bruce.
Report made a parliamentary paper in accordance with standing order 39(e).
by leave—As members would be aware, on 14 August the House referred a matter of privilege to the committee in relation to a concern notice given to the member for Bruce by lawyers acting on behalf of Mr John Margerison. The basis for the member for Bruce's complaint was that it was a concern notice that foreshadowed legal action for defamation based on the material covered in a number of publications, much or all of which, the member submitted, was likely to be covered by parliamentary privilege. The publications in question were: a media release of the Joint Committee of Public Accounts and Audit, two Twitter posts in the name of the member for Bruce, four Facebook posts in the name of the member for Bruce, and one YouTube video in the name of the member for Bruce.
The committee was asked to consider whether the House should express a view on the matter and intervene if court proceedings were commenced, to protect parliamentary privilege, and whether the threat of legal action may constitute a contempt of the House by way of improper interference with the free exercise of the Joint Committee of Public Accounts and Audit's authority or functions, and the member for Bruce's duties may be seen as a precedent if not addressed by the House. The committee received and considered the concerns notice and the publications to which it refers. The committee notes the question of whether the publication of material is likely to attract parliamentary privilege is clearer in some cases than in others. Parliamentary privilege encompasses the special legal rights which apply to each House of parliament, its committees and its members.
The powers and protections are in place to enable the parliament to carry its functions properly, including debating matters of importance freely, discussing grievances and conducting investigations effectively, without interference from government or the courts or others. In addition to the freedom of speech during proceedings and the preparation of particular documents, the law of parliamentary privilege applies to other acts, such as the properly authorised publishing of parliamentary material. If documents or other publications are covered by parliamentary privilege, there are restrictions on the legal action that could be taken in relation to both of them. There are also restrictions on the use of those publications in any legal proceedings.
The committee considers that a properly authorised media release by a parliamentary committee would fall under the definition of proceedings of parliament, contained in subsection 16(2) of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987. Therefore, the committee found that it is likely that parliamentary privilege would attach to the media release of the JCPAA. Any act or omission which obstructs or impedes either house of parliament in the performance of its functions or which obstructs or impedes any member or officer of such house in the discharge of their duty, or which has a tendency, directly or indirectly, to produce such results, may be treated as contempt.
It is the view of the committee that the threat of legal action contained in the concerns notice, insofar as it pertains to the media release, could have amounted to a serious contempt by both Mr Margerison and his legal representatives. This would be by way of improper interference with the free exercise by the JCPAA of its authority and functions and the member for Bruce's job as the chair of the committee. During the course of the inquiry, Mr Margerison informed the committee that he had withdrawn the concerns notice given to the member for Bruce and apologised for the potential interference in the work of the parliament.
Given these circumstances, the committee will not be making any formal recommendations to the House on the matter. However, given its serious nature, the committee wished to record its views on this matter—including, importantly, to stress the threat that legal proceedings based on material to which parliamentary privilege attaches could amount to a serious contempt of the House by an individual bringing those proceedings or their legal representatives. I therefore commend the statement to the House.
Scott Buchholz (Wright, Liberal Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I thank the honourable member for McEwen. The member for Deakin on this matter?
10:26 am
Michael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Yes, thanks very much, Mr Deputy Speaker. I seek leave to move the following motion: That this House (1) condemns the ongoing violence and antisemitic protests taking place in Melbourne; (2) condemns the conduct—
Rob Mitchell (McEwen, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
That's not on this matter.
Mark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
That's not on this matter.
Michael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Well, I'm seeking leave to move the following motion—
Mark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
You've misled the House by—
Michael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
No, I haven't.
Mark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Mr Deputy Speaker, the member was given the call, very clearly, to speak on this matter.
Scott Buchholz (Wright, Liberal Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Just take a seat for a moment. Can I just ask the Clerk—
Rob Mitchell (McEwen, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
You don't have the call to do that. You were called to speak on the matter.
Mark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
You were asked why you rose, and you misled the Deputy Speaker.
Scott Buchholz (Wright, Liberal Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Order. The member for McEwen concluded his report. I did give the call to the member for Deakin on the pretence that it was on this matter. You're seeking to move a suspension of standing orders?
Michael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I'm seeking leave to move the following motion, Mr Deputy Speaker—
Scott Buchholz (Wright, Liberal Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
That can be done at this point in time, but the clarification that I believe that the minister was looking for, that it wasn't on this matter—I believe that is now clarified, given your opening comments. This is the time that you could move this matter.
Michael Sukkar (Deakin, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Social Services) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. It was very clear.