Mr Deputy President, I rise on a point of order. I did not want to interrupt Senator Hutchins during his speech, but I want to rise on a point of order about Senator Hutchins’ language. He made a derogatory comment about pensioners. Senator Birmingham, Senator Kemp and I do not care if he is referring to us, but it was a derogatory slur on pensioners in Australia and I think that Senator Hutchins should be invited to apologise to pensioners for being derogatory in the way in which he referred to them.