Joe Ludwig (Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Government Business in the Senate) Share this | Hansard source

Mr President, I rise on the point of order. I note that the Liberal senator on the other side did not argue whether it was a point of order to do with relevance. I assume that was the point that she was trying to raise. The fact that she did not mention that issue is by the by—it did go to, I think, that issue. I would humbly submit in respect of that matter that we have had a range of interjections on those specific points. As the Senate well knows, the minister has been answering the question. He has been detailing the serious issues that surround pensioners for some minutes and should be allowed to continue.