Barnaby Joyce (Queensland, National Party) Share this | Hansard source

I acknowledge that. This is my final question. The answers at best have been nebulous and amorphous, and we are not really drilling down. It is a very specific thing that has a very specific outcome, which is the debt. The interest that the Australian people will have to pay will be absolutely evident. The effects on the budget will be absolutely apparent. The efficacy is the only thing we cannot seem to prove. And now we cannot even get a definition of what ‘short term’ is. We have discovered already that we are not looking at $200 billion; we are looking at up to $300 billion—