Michael Ronaldson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Special Minister of State) Share this | Hansard source

Well, make your mind up—either we did or we did not. You do not need the puppeteer up the back, surely. Senator Ludwig can answer this question quite adequately himself without any input from Senator O’Brien, who is making no contribution at all. Anyway, if he wants to play his games up the back there, that is all right.