Joe Ludwig (Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Government Business in the Senate) Share this | Hansard source

Mr Deputy President, on the point of order: I am raising this issue on the point of order because I think, in part, the point of order that has been taken has been characterised wrongly. Can I say that the standing order talks about ‘determine the matter’ not ‘provide a ruling’? I did not want it left on the Hansard the way that it has been raised by Senator Ian Macdonald because—