Joe Ludwig (Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Government Business in the Senate) Share this | Hansard source

These are choices that have to be made and savings have to be harvested. Senator Cormann interjects again, but it only really highlights the challenge that Senator Cormann has in trying to explain his position. The opposition is always confronted with the difficulty of trying to persuade us on the merits of this argument. There is no merit in the argument and there is little merit in the procedure that has been adopted this morning, which can only be described as Senate obstructionism. I will not take up all the time in dealing with this issue and will close at this point.