David Johnston (WA, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Defence) Share this | Hansard source

I do not think that answers my question. Paragraph (b) of part 2 of clause 3 says 'creates offences for persons who':

(a) supply—

and we come back to the word 'supply' without a permit in a minute—

(b) arrange for other persons to engage in dealings—

You have told me that 'dealings' is the supply of technology. This means to arrange for persons to engage in the 'supply' of technology relating to goods. Why have we chosen the word 'dealings' on that basis? Why are we using the word 'dealings', which is a very vague term, a term that I do not think it is in common parlance, a term that actually complicates and unnecessarily broadens the scope of the legislation? I will come back to the words 'supply' and 'arrange' in a moment, but after we have dealt with 'dealings', I want to deal with the words 'relating to'.