Senate debates

Wednesday, 14 October 2015

Bills

Social Security Legislation Amendment (Debit Card Trial) Bill 2015; In Committee

12:40 pm

Photo of Nick XenophonNick Xenophon (SA, Independent) Share this | Hansard source

Could I just take up Senator Siewert's point? I guess I look at it from a slightly different perspective. By having two legislative instruments, by having two periods of six months, if the government is not being transparent in the process—and I would shocked if it were not, and I say that with a straight face, because I think it is in the government's interest for there to be transparency in the process. I genuinely believe that. I know some more cynical in the chamber might not have that view, but the fact is: if there is not, then that itself could be a factor for the disallowance. I think the government would know that, in order to ensure that the regulation not be disallowed in the second six-month period, there would need to be a level of transparency and accountability in the process. So I think that itself would act to be useful.

I will just ask a question of the minister that I raised briefly with Assistant Minister Tudge. This is what happens when you pass people in the corridors of this building. We had a useful conversation but sadly none of it was recorded for the purposes of Hansard. This relates to online gambling. Yesterday, just parenthetically, I had a very useful discussion with former New South Wales Premier Barry O'Farrell, who is heading up—

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