Nick Xenophon (SA, Independent) Share this | Hansard source

Senator Dastyari, hopefully Hansard did not pick that up. Through you, Chair, Senator Dastyari needs to know that there was no wine consumed, only water.

In his review of online gambling, there was an issue about the distinction between illegal online gambling providers—those that operate out of Gibraltar and the Caribbean and goodness knows where else, which are unauthorised and illegal—and those that are authorised under the Interactive Gambling Act. My question to the minister—and I happy for some of this to be taken on notice—is: given that some of these illegal operations have innocuous-sounding names that do not sound anything like a gambling provider for their merchant ID, will the healthy welfare card prohibit overseas transactions, and which overseas transactions will be allowed? If you are dealing with Amazon.com to buy a book, I would have thought that someone should be able to do that transaction—or if they are dealing with any online retailers that might be overseas or they want to subscribe to The New York Times, which might have a special subscription deal that goes to an overseas website. How do you distinguish between those overseas transactions and, in particular, overseas online gambling transactions?