Jacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Hansard source

We have not had it. We have not had the Department of Finance appear before the Senate committee. That is why this motion of the chair of the references committee is appropriate. We should have this before the Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee.

Let me deal with some of the other shams. When we get to the committee stage, there will be more. The reason why this motion is pertinent is that several shams have arisen since we first dealt with the message. The first of those shams is the minister now saying, 'We've already had 20 hours.' We have not had 20 hours in the second reading debate. You cannot argue or debate in this place around the sham, confusion and chaos which this government—