Mathias Cormann (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Finance) Share this | Hansard source

Just to reconfirm it very concisely: firstly, the number is openly and transparently published by this government—obviously, through the relevant website. And let me say it again: the gross debt level is less than what it would have been if Labor had been re-elected to government—

Opposition senators interjecting—

By your own admission, you went to the last election with bigger deficits. (Time expired)