Michaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Women) Share this | Hansard source

Yes. Despite the fact that Mr Setka has been convicted or fined for 40 offences and sentenced to jail twice, including for breaking into a work site, where he punched and kicked a worker and threatened another with a steel bar, there are those who still support him. Sally McManus, the secretary of the ACTU, earlier this year said it is okay to break the law if the unions do not like it. Today Mr Shorten said:

… bad laws get changed at elections, bad laws get changed at the ballot box.

What he did not say, though, was that he was waiting for the instructions from people like Mr Setka as to which laws they say need to be changed. Of course, he really could not care less, because, in accordance with Sally McManus's instructions, if you do not like the law, it is okay to break it.

To pick up Senator Wong's previous interjection: he may distance himself from Mr Setka's comments. Until he stops accepting the money, quite frankly, he is still culpable. (Time expired)