Senate debates

Thursday, 28 June 2018

Bills

National Security Legislation Amendment (Espionage and Foreign Interference) Bill 2018; In Committee

1:36 pm

Photo of Andrew BartlettAndrew Bartlett (Queensland, Australian Greens) Share this | Hansard source

I'm certainly not intending to go over words, definitions and specific examples that have been covered previously. I know that there is a series of amendments and there are some questions that others may wish to ask before we get onto the amendments. But, for the sake of having as much confidence as possible, we need to have as much certainty as possible about aspects of things like making something available.

We're talking about people making something available, and it seems to be continually falling back on whether that's done recklessly. Is that simply the core factor that's involved, that people just need to have enough awareness about what they're doing in making information available? That's by whatever means; I don't really want to get into whether it's through particular applications, or through the internet or whatever. But is that the core factor that it really boils down to there—whether people are being reckless in regard to this?

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