Scott Ryan (President) Share this | Hansard source

Order! Senator Kitching, please do not use the 'direct relevance' point of order to make an argument. In this case, the minister was speaking for six seconds. The minister is allowed to challenge or to reject a presumption outlined in the question. I didn't hear the minister finish that sentence, so I cannot rule on a point of direct relevance at this point at all. Senator Ruston, please continue.