Senate debates

Thursday, 30 March 2023

Bills

Safeguard Mechanism (Crediting) Amendment Bill 2023; In Committee

10:30 am

Photo of Jonathon DuniamJonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Hansard source

I'm quite befuddled by the approach the government is taking to questions being asked by a member of the crossbench. I think that Senator Roberts, who will say things that others will disagree with, should be respected for his views and not be talked to in the way that he just has been.

I want to add something to the record. We had a quote from the minister relating to APPEA. I will put on the record some words that their CEO, Samantha McCulloch, put on record as a result of the dodgy deal we've seen done here:

New gas supply investment needs policy and regulatory certainty but instead, the Labor-Greens deal creates additional barriers to investment, further diminishing the investment environment and adding to the growing list of regulatory challenges facing the sector.

While the minister is cherrypicking quotes that talk up the certainty in the environment and how businesses welcome the opportunity to work with government, we have to look at the hard, cold facts here of what actually is happening and what industry is saying in response to a dodgy deal having been done, rather than misrepresenting the attitude of some of these groups, including APPEA, who are very concerned about what's happened here and who haven't been, as far as I'm aware, part of any consultation on the last-minute dodgy deal done between the Greens and the Australian Labor Party. I'd love to know whether they were consulted on the way through on the Greens demands for their agreement to this legislation. Anyway, we'll come to that, I'm sure.

Yesterday I asked a question, and I wonder if, overnight, the government have gone and checked, across their records, whether they possess this information. The minister has spoken at length about the expectation and understanding the government has that many industries, many of those captured facilities, will have in place plans to reduce emissions that somehow mirror or match the government's own policies. I'll ask this same question again. How many of the 215 facilities captured by the safeguard mechanism had existing plans to reduce their emissions by 30 per cent by the year 2030?

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