Richard Di Natale (Victoria, Australian Greens) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

My question is for the Minister representing the Minister for Climate Change and Energy Efficiency, Senator Wong. Senator, with the Labor-Green alliance's carbon tax now responsible for the death of Fairfax, can the government produce modelling to prove that the carbon tax did not cause or contribute to Victoria's earthquake on Tuesday evening? Furthermore, what do you have to say to those people who suffered distress and damage in the Victorian earthquake, and will you guarantee there will be no further earthquakes in Victoria following the carbon tax?

Honourable Senators:

Honourable senators interjecting—

John Hogg (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Order! The question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy Efficiency. The minister representing that minister can only answer the question in so much as the question applies to the portfolio.

Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Thank you to the senator for the question. On a serious note first, obviously any natural disaster is something to be concerned about. I am sure that all of us are pleased that there was not more significant damage or any concerns as a result of the earthquake.

I have to say, if I closed my eyes when the question was being asked by Senator Di Natale, I almost thought it could have been Senator Bernardi. Apologies for that, Senator Di Natale. I can confirm that the carbon price was not responsible for the 2005 Ashes loss and I can confirm that the carbon price will not have an effect on whether or not Port Power are able to beat the Cats on 1 July.

Richard Di Natale (Victoria, Australian Greens) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. I refer the minister to a recent episode of MasterChef, on 25 May, where Julia, a legal secretary from Queensland, made a pannacotta which failed to set. Is the minister aware that every significant stage of the pannacotta production chain, from milk to sugar, will be impacted by the carbon tax, and will the government ensure the carbon tax does not cause such culinary tragedies in the future?

John Hogg (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Again, the minister can only answer that question in so much as it pertains to the portfolio.

Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I have a confession to make, that I have never actually been able to make a pannacotta set, and I cannot blame anybody for that.

Chris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Before or after—

Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Before or after the carbon tax. I do not expect that the introduction of the carbon tax will improve or worsen that situation at all. I can confirm to the Senate that pannacottas indeed are safe after the carbon tax starts.

Richard Di Natale (Victoria, Australian Greens) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. With the carbon tax inflicting such damage on our economy, an economy which is the strongest in the OECD, with low inflation, unemployment of five per cent and low interest rates, why is the government introducing a carbon tax with Australia on the verge of a recession?

Simon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for the Murray Darling Basin) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Mr President, I rise on a point of order. It is a very simple point of order. I draw your attention to standing order 73, which states, at point (f), that questions shall not contain ironical expressions. Unless, of course, Senator Di Natale means the statements that he is making, I suspect his questions have been full of ironical expressions.

John Hogg (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

There is no point of order. Senator Di Natale.

Richard Di Natale (Victoria, Australian Greens) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I simply point out that there is no more or less irony than in the statement that the carbon tax was responsible for the death of Fairfax.

John Hogg (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Senator Di Natale, I will give you the opportunity to rephrase the question.

Richard Di Natale (Victoria, Australian Greens) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Thank you, Mr President. With the carbon tax inflicting serious damage on our economy—I would just like to point out it is an economy with low inflation, unemployment at five per cent and low interest rates—why is the government introducing a carbon tax at the best possible time?

Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I think I might leave the list of things that we know the carbon price is not responsible for, but I would say this: we do know that the economy is in a period of substantial change, but we also know—

Senator Brandis interjecting—

I will take that interjection from Senator Brandis, because the only person who said people have never had it so good was former Prime Minister Howard. If you have a concern about that, Senator Brandis, I suggest you go and give former Prime Minister Howard a call, rather than throwing it at us. What we will say is that this is an economy that is in a period of change.

Honourable senators interjecting—

John Hogg (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Senator Wong, resume your seat. When there is silence, we will proceed.

Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Finance and Deregulation) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I would make the point that I have made before: this is an economy that is in a period of change because of what is occurring in the global economy, but it is an economy that is performing very well. We have strong growth, we have low unemployment, we have contained inflation and we have falling interest rates. It is always easy to put off reforms, but it is no longer appropriate and there is no longer a reason for us to continue to put off— (Time expired)