Senate debates
Thursday, 12 December 2013
Committees
Privileges Committee; Report
4:23 pm
Jacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I present the 155th report of the Committee of Privileges, entitled Person referred to in the Senate: Father Frank Brennan SJ AO.
Ordered that the report be printed.
by leave—I move:
That the report be adopted.
This is the 65th report in a series of reports recommending that a right of reply be afforded to persons who claim to have been adversely affected by being referred to in the Senate either by name or in such a way as to be readily identified. On 10 December 2013 the President received a submission from Father Frank Brennan SJ, AO relating to a speech made by Senator Brandis during ministerial statements on 4 December. The President referred the submission to the committee under privileges resolution No. 5.
The committee considered the submission at its meeting today and recommends that the proposed response be incorporated in Hansard. The committee reminds the Senate that in matters of this nature it does not judge the truth or otherwise of statements made by honourable senators or the persons referred to. Rather it ensures that the persons' submissions and ultimately the response to them are in accord with the criteria set out in privileges resolution No. 5. I commend the motion to the Senate.
The response read as follows—
Appendix
Response by Father Frank Brennan SJ AO
Pursuant to Resolution 5(7)(b) of the Senate of 25 February 1988
Reply to statement by Senator the Hon George Brandis
(4 December 2013)
I claim to have been misrepresented and wronged by Senator the Hon George Brandis QC. I ask that this matter be referred to the Senate Privileges Committee.
Senator the Hon George Brandis QC told the Senate (Hansard 4/12, p.44) in a Ministerial Statement on National Security that on the evening of 3 December 2013 “rather wild and injudicious claims were made …disappointingly, by Father Frank Brennan, that the purpose for which the search warrants were issued was to somehow impede or subvert the arbitration”.
I am Fr Frank Brennan SJ AO, professor of law at the Australian Catholic University, and adjunct professor at the Australian National University.
Attached please find the transcript of my interview on the ABC 7.30 program on 3 December 2013, and an article from The Guardian dated 3 December 2013 entitled “Timor-Leste spy case: ‘witness held, and lawyer's office raided by ASIO’” which formed the only basis for Senator Brandis’s adverse remarks about me.
On the evening of 3 December 2013, I did not claim “that the purpose for which the search warrants were issued was to somehow impede or subvert the arbitration”. I did not imply this in what I said. No reasonable listener would infer this from what I said. I do concede that many listeners being acquainted with the fact that raids had occurred and with the timing of the raids might have made presumptions about the likely effect of the raids on any pending arbitration. Some might even have speculated about the purpose of those who instituted the raids. But I made no claims about the intent to impede or subvert any arbitration. A statement of fact that raids had occurred and that arbitration was pending could not be classified as a “wild and injudicious claim” unless of course the raids did not occur or the arbitration was not pending. Senator Brandis admits that the raids occurred and that the arbitration was pending.
The assertion by Senator Brandis, garnished with a loose characterisation of my remarks as “rather wild and injudicious claims”, may reflect adversely on my character and standing as a professor of law, Catholic priest, and public advocate for social justice who studiously and professionally avoids making wild and injudicious claims.
I seek the right of reply. I claim to have been misrepresented by Senator Brandis. I have had the opportunity for a frank and amicable discussion with the Senator and I am satisfied that he had absolutely no intention of impugning my character. We have known each other for decades and we are well used to robust, respectful public discussion.
Please be assured my availability to assist the Committee in any way possible. I look forward to a prompt resolution of this matter.
Question agreed to.