Senate debates

Monday, 6 November 2023

Questions without Notice

Ideologically Motivated Extremism

2:16 pm

Photo of James PatersonJames Paterson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Cyber Security) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister representing the Prime Minister, Senator Farrell. Media reporting over the weekend has revealed that an Islamic preacher in Sydney delivered a radical sermon that called on Muslims to wage jihad, declared Australia hypocritical for labelling Hamas's massacre of innocent Israelis as terrorism and claimed that Hamas terrorists who committed the 7 October attack on Israel were not terrorists but freedom fighters. Does the government condemn this radical rhetoric?

2:17 pm

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Paterson for his question. I didn't see those comments. I understand that we as a government have made it very clear that we condemn these corrosive and irresponsible statements. Security agencies are aware of these statements. I understand NSW Police have commenced an investigation into this matter. All Australians should remember what the Director-General of Security recently said about the importance of considering the implications for social cohesion when making public statements. ASIO has seen direct connections between inflamed language and inflamed community tensions. So, as I said, we condemn these statements. They're corrosive and irresponsible. The security agencies are investigating the statements, as is NSW Police, and we'll await the results of those investigations.

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Senator Paterson, a first supplementary?

2:18 pm

Photo of James PatersonJames Paterson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Cyber Security) Share this | | Hansard source

The individual in question reportedly dared the government to deport him for his comments. Will the government take him up on this by immediately cancelling his visa, if he is found to have violated his visa conditions?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Paterson for his first supplementary question. It's been a very consistent, longstanding practice that ASIO does not comment on individuals or investigations, and I'm happy to leave it to the relevant authorities to investigate the matter and to come forward with some advice.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Paterson?

Photo of James PatersonJames Paterson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Cyber Security) Share this | | Hansard source

On direct relevance, Madam President—I did not ask about ASIO or any investigations they were conducting but whether the government would cancel the visa if he's violated the conditions of that visa?

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I believe the minister is being relevant, Senator Paterson. Minister Farrell.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Where individuals pose a significant risk to the community, the Australian government will continue to cancel their visas and remove them. But, as is standard practice—and this was a practice adopted by your government, Senator Paterson, so it's a longstanding government practice—government does not comment on individual cases.

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Senator Paterson, a second supplementary.

2:20 pm

Photo of James PatersonJames Paterson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Cyber Security) Share this | | Hansard source

Does the government reject inflammatory language and accusations, such as those accusing Israel of genocide?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator Paterson. The government has made it very clear that it condemns the actions of Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Of course, we came to this parliament with a joint resolution following the terrible events in Israel as a result of the attack by Hamas. What I do want to reject, though, are the attempts by the opposition to gain political advantage and to score political points out of the terrible tragedy that's going on in the Middle East at the moment.

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

The lack of clarity from your government!

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

And I'm giving you a straight answer!

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Senator Paterson on a point of order?

Photo of James PatersonJames Paterson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Cyber Security) Share this | | Hansard source

Again, President, it's on direct relevance. I asked whether the government would condemn those accusing Israel of genocide. The minister has not yet responded to the question.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I believe the minister is being relevant. Have you finished your comments, Minister?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Yes.