Senate debates

Thursday, 13 February 2025

Questions without Notice

Cost of Living

2:13 pm

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister representing the Prime Minister, Senator Wong. Prior to the last election the Prime Minister promised Australians on 97 occasions that he would reduce their power bills by $275. Did the Prime Minister deliver on his promise?

2:14 pm

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I first make the point that our plan is delivering cheaper energy right now. We delivered energy relief, which has cut $300 off power bills. The person who asked that question is of a party that has voted against every piece of energy bill relief that we have provided to Australians.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator McGrath, a point of order?

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

I regret to do this, but I have a point of order on relevance. The question was actually, 'Did the Prime Minister deliver on his promise in relation to the $275 reduction that was made 97 times?' I don't believe the minister is anywhere near answering that.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator McGrath. The minister has started her answer. You've repeated the question, so I will continue to listen carefully.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I said at the outset our plan is delivering cheaper energy right now, and we've delivered energy relief which has cut hundreds of dollars off Australians' power bills. We delivered $650 in energy relief to small business—

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Cash, a point of order?

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

Point of order in relation to relevance—

Honourable senators interjecting

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm sorry, Senator Cash. I'm going to call the Senate to order.

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

It's a point of order in relation to relevance. The question was: given that the Prime Minister made a promise to the Australian people, did he deliver it?

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator Cash. Minister Wong, I'll remind you of the question and invite you to continue your response.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

President, I've answered it. Our plan is delivering cheaper energy now, and it stands in stark contrast to the nuclear fantasy, which will push up power prices by $1,200 and deliver less than four per cent of our energy needs. You don't like these facts, do you?

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator McGrath, a point of order?

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

There is a point of order on relevance that I wish to raise, and that is that the opposition's policy in relation to nuclear energy has absolutely nothing to do with the question I put to Senator Wong about the Prime Minister keeping his promises.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator McGrath, that is a debating point. What I'm advised is that talking about the opposition's policies is not relevant, but the minister is being relevant to the question that you asked, Senator McGrath.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Our plan is delivering cheaper energy right now, and I welcome the fact that the opposition wants to avoid talking about their policy. Before the election, Australians are going to know precisely what your policy is, Senator McGrath. It will deliver more expensive energy, it will cost $600 billion and you would have to pay for it. People will know about that.

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Senator McGrath, first supplementary?

2:17 pm

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Prior to the last election, the Prime Minister promised Australian families cheaper mortgages. Did the Prime Minister deliver on his promise?

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Can I point out to the senator that, when we came to government, inflation had a six in front of it and now inflation has a two in front of it. I would point out to those opposite that, in fact, under this government you've seen inflation falling, you have seen unemployment falling and you've seen wages rising. These are good things. Now, I know those opposite don't wish to see higher wages, and I know those opposite don't wish to understand what's happening with inflation—

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, please resume your seat. Senator McGrath, a point of order?

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm sorry to do this to you, but I have a point of order on relevance. Senator Wong has once again referred to the opposition when the question was very clear and in relation to whether the Prime Minister delivered on his promise to deliver cheaper mortgages.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator McGrath. I will draw the minister to your question.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I want to also point out that the government has passed a range of policies which have assisted and will assist homeowners with their mortgage payments, with the price of houses and with the supply of houses; one of those was the Help to Buy shared equity scheme. (Time expired).

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Senator McGrath, second supplementary?

2:19 pm

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

The Prime Minister also said prior to the last election:

…when I make a mistake, I'll fess up to it, and I'll set about correcting that mistake … I won't blame someone else, I'll accept responsibility.

When will the Prime Minister admit to Australians that he promised them cheaper mortgages and cheaper electricity and all that he's delivered is a cost-of-living crisis?

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

It is the case that we teach our children that they should acknowledge their mistakes, and I look forward to Mr Dutton acknowledging his mistake around the GP tax. I look forward to Senator McGrath acknowledging his mistake, which was—

Photo of James McGrathJames McGrath (Queensland, Liberal National Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

President, I wish to raise a point of order in relation to relevance. The question was about the Prime Minister and whether he has admitted that he has made a mistake in relation to delivering a cost-of-living crisis. It was nothing to do with Peter Dutton or me.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator McGrath. I note the minister had just started her response, but I will remind her of your question.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm very happy to get to our record of higher wages, lower inflation and lower unemployment. I'm very happy to talk about that. But I think Senator McGrath and Mr Dutton should acknowledge their mistake of a $50 billion cut from public hospitals and a GP tax on every Australian. I think it would be good if they could acknowledge their mistake, which is their $600 billion of funding for a nuclear scheme—a nuclear fantasy—for more-expensive power that will deliver four per cent of Australia's grid. I'm all for accountability, Senator McGrath. We have yet to see it from Mr Dutton.