Julia Gillard (Lalor, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Hansard source

What I am endeavouring to explain to the Leader of the Opposition—based on the expert advice we have been given by the Secretary of the Department of Immigration and Citizenship, and what I believe the secretary actually said to the Leader of the Opposition in the briefing that he provided to the Leader of the Opposition—is that the secretary said it is up to 800 asylum seekers. Of course, our hope is that we would not need to transfer that many. Our aim is that we do not have to transfer that many, because the advice to us is that the strength of the deterrence effect is such that this will smash the people smugglers' business model.

Mr Hockey interjecting—

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